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Episode 573: From Breweries to Broken Biblical Logic

This week’s episode had a slightly different vibe—Ben was buried under a mountain of work, so he wasn’t able to make it. But don’t worry, Steven and Devon had plenty to talk about.

Real Life
Devon’s mom was visiting, and he took a trip out to Milwaukee for baseball. Turns out the city is super clean… but also a little seedy after dark. Naturally, breweries came up (because it’s Milwaukee), and he hit up Broken Bat Brewery—complete with darts, wiffle ball, and the echo of a chant we kept repeating: Miller Miller!

Meanwhile, Steven went full hobby mode. He finished painting Anakin, played Shatterpoint with Greg, and even reconnected with an old friend. On top of that, we dove into Alien: Earth with a quick mini recap and review.

What Devon’s Watching & Reading
Devon’s keeping up with Foundation season 3, which is still going strong with some big, interesting ideas. He also talked about The Battle for the Big Bang—sadly not available on audio—and continued his personal project of reading through the Bible. He’s been trying to make sense of how religion developed, comparing the Old Testament to the New Testament, and even mentioned James Talarico. Lots of deep thought packed into his reading stack.

Future or Now
Nothing in this segment this week.

Book Club (Coming Up)
Next week, we’ll be reading Terry Bisson’s Bears Discover Fire—a short story that basically swept the awards back in the early ’90s. It won the Hugo, Nebula, Locus, and a few others, and it even inspired Bisson’s later tongue-in-cheek story Bears Discover Smut. Bisson, who sadly passed away in January 2024, was a giant in short speculative fiction. He’s also the mind behind They’re Made Out of Meat—a must-read if you’ve never come across it.

If you want to check it out before we dive in:

So grab your copy of Bears Discover Fire in whichever format works best and get ready to talk talking bears, fire, and why this little story became such a classic.


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