*Notice* Guest host Ben Lawless wants to make it clear that he likes Star Trek: Discovery more than The Orville despite how it sounds on this ep. He would like you to know that his expectations for the Orville are lower so he is less critical of the show. *Notice*

This episode contains: Devon is joined by Ben Lawless on this Stevenless episode. We catch up a little then talk some science.

This Week in Space: Jeff Bezos wants to land on the moon. Blue Horizon is building a moon lander called Blue Moon. They are trying to get the NASA contract for the upcoming moon missions.

https://gizmodo.com/jeff-bezos-wants-to-set-up-amazon-on-the-moon-1792952893

Star Trek: Discovery: We get down to business and dissect the entire season 2 of Star Trek: Discovery. We then talk briefly about The Orville.